Explain Teary How my asking her a simple cleaning question in my Fathers home rates as 'Spiritual danger " ??
troubled mind
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Why can't I just have one day with out seeing a JW ......seriously
by troubled mind intoday i went early to my dad's house to help my disabled sister with medical paperwork .
at 10am the cleaning lady shows up .
she was a jw recruit of my mom's yrs ago, and use to be like a sister to us a really long time ago .
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Why can't I just have one day with out seeing a JW ......seriously
by troubled mind intoday i went early to my dad's house to help my disabled sister with medical paperwork .
at 10am the cleaning lady shows up .
she was a jw recruit of my mom's yrs ago, and use to be like a sister to us a really long time ago .
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troubled mind
'Hey, the least they can do is to do no harm. Sometimes, just behaving like a decent person can be a good witness to others. But behaving badly does more harm than good.'
excellant point IsacJ......... Even when I was a witness that is what I thought about treating others . I admit I did not go out of my way to talk to a df'd person ,but I did say Hi or smiled if I ran into them in public . I most certainly returned conversation if they spoke to me first . Kindness and dignity should never be shoved aside to make a religious point .It just doesn't make sense ... Love would not behave that way .
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Why can't I just have one day with out seeing a JW ......seriously
by troubled mind intoday i went early to my dad's house to help my disabled sister with medical paperwork .
at 10am the cleaning lady shows up .
she was a jw recruit of my mom's yrs ago, and use to be like a sister to us a really long time ago .
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troubled mind
Thank you Zid I appreciate the influence you have on Karma ,it's good to know someone with that kind of connections !
I like the idea of leaving COC out for her to dust around ...knowing her though she would run from the house screaming and then He would have to get his old cleaning lady back (that would be ME and believe me I don't want it ! )
My Dad is a croutchity old man .....and I can't think of a better revenge than to have her continue putting up with him ........ I will be the one to fire her little #&@ one day until then I will just avoid visiting during her work time .
She was pissed, I guess ,and gave my sister an earful for not warning her that I would be there .
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Why can't I just have one day with out seeing a JW ......seriously
by troubled mind intoday i went early to my dad's house to help my disabled sister with medical paperwork .
at 10am the cleaning lady shows up .
she was a jw recruit of my mom's yrs ago, and use to be like a sister to us a really long time ago .
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Today I went early to my Dad's house to help my disabled sister with Medical paperwork . At 10am the cleaning lady shows up . She was a JW recruit of my Mom's yrs ago, and use to be like a sister to us a REALLY long time ago . She cleans for my Dad now that my JW Mom passed away . Dad was never a witness,my Sister is technically ,but because of health is mostly house bound .
Anyways ,the jw cleaning lady pulls up outside and calls my Dad to see who is visiting since she sees my car in the drive . When she comes in she looks past me to say hi to Dad then looks down as she passes me even though I acknowledge her . Later when no one else is in the room I asked her what she was using to clean with ? She tells me curtly and when I continue to speak about the cleaning product she turns to me ,and says she does not know if she can continue speaking to me because she does not know my standing . So I say 'standing ?' why I am standing right here in front of you ! ', She says :No I mean what your spiritual standing is "....... I started laughing . She repeats .' I can not talk to you if I don't know your spiritual standing is "... I say 'Well okay whatever makes you happy ' .... I then took my sister out of the house for a drive .
But seriously !!! Does she honestly think me being polite ,and making conversation about cleaning products is really going to jeapordize her faith some how ??? And this also proves how gossipy JWs most be because she doesn't even attend the same hall I use to go to .How else would she even know I have faded ?
Do you think karma is getting me back for all those yrs I acted like that ? In front of my sister and Dad I just made jokes about her behavior ,but in the car on the way home I felt the sting ....it hurts when people don't value your existance . I am glad I have this place to let it out at because I know someone here understands how it feels . I do try to let these things go and focus on the postives I now have in life ,but still it stings .
I just wish I could go through a week or better yet a month of never seeing a JW . It happens daily though and I am so sick of it right now .
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I Got My Mail At Work Today & I Recieved A Package With White Powder in It!
by minimus ini called the police and they brought the fire department and police to retrieve the post office package.
i found out that in the last month at least 2 other businesses got this type of package.
the white powder was in a plastic that was placed inside a pack of orbit gum.. the contents were taken and were then brought to the town postmaster.. wish me luck!.
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troubled mind
maybe you have been asking the wrong person too many questions ????
No, seriously sorry this happened to you kind of un nerving I would imagine ...
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No longer feel nervous or guilty when I see a JW out in public...
by QuestioningEverything ini used to feel nervous when i was out and would encounter a jw.
instantly, i would feel guilty that i wasn't doing more spiritually.
seems like the conversation would always go the the kh and jw's topic and the usual "we miss you, blah, blah, blah..." i am happy to say--- that is not the case anymore!
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Congratulations for getting over that obstacle ! I went throught that too . Now whenever we do hear from my JW in laws ,which is seldom, I am always sure to bring out the positive things going on in our lives . It is always like she is expecting us to say we are destitute and ready to come crawling back to the org. She seems disappointed when I tell her everyone's job is going well or someone just got a raise . Never is she genuinely happy for our successes . Blah on the negativity YAY for your family !
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told my parents to never ever tell me they love me again....
by oompa in...i told them in a very serious sitdown in their living room....said..."because if you cant show it then it does not count...that is not real love no matter who tells you it is....because it is how it makes me feel that determines if it is love....not if you just say it...and me and my sons do not feel that love at all now"....and i stayed calm and talked slowly and barely shed a tear as i held them back...and i had asked them to not say a word but just listen...dad said they would as long as it was not about religion as i knew he would.
this was two of the worst days of my life in a row..i told them the pain me and my boys feel from their shunning is worse than if they had died...that then i could grieve naturally and move on because that is normal....grief helps you cope...my grief is different because they choose to act like i am dead and normal grief does not seem to work on that.
i shared an epiphany with them i had about mens rules vs gods great idea of dna (but no i am not sure about a god anymore)it went kinda like this:.
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((((00mpaa))) I have so much respect for what you did . It breaks my heart to see how this religion effects families . How did they react afterwards ? It has to touch them to their core . I imagine they must have a horrible time sleeping at night turning over your words in their minds as they try to counter that with the hate in the Watchtower ...... I hope as your son says this will all now end ....no more JW's in your family line .
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Best answer to "What prevents you from getting baptized?"
by venusinfauxfurs inthe nosy elder at the congregation i attend until i can get out very soon (just quickly: born in, was headed towards unbaptized pub but changed my mind about that and baptism) pulled me aside and showed me the scripture about coming across the body of water and asking "what prevents me from getting baptized" and i really want a quick, preferably smart-ass reply the next time he puts me on the spot like that.. .
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fire away!
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troubled mind
How about : " Hell hasn't frozen over yet ! "
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an interesting day with my kid (never give up!)
by Aussie Oz inas many of you know, i don't see my teenage son much these days... friends more fun then dad, you know.
but last time he was here we had a little chat about his life and decisions.
see, he knows he should be looking deep at the jws and doesnt want to.
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Now that your son's girlfriend is baptised there will be enormous pressure on him to follow . She will be advised to not date him until he has made certain his intentions of following the cult . It comes down to the unevenly yoked illustration .
Our oldest son was baptised and the girl he loved was raised a witness ,but had not yet been baptised (she was studying with a pioneer with the intent to baptism ). The Elders gave talks about how wrong this dating was (w/o stating names ,but everyone knew who they meant) It lead to people marking her (my son didn't live in the same congregation) . NO one would come to her bridal shower ! After being in this small congregation all her life and everyone knowing her ....it really ticked me off people were so petty . I was so proud of her for sticking to her guns and not allowing others to push her too fast . They ended up marrying in Las Vegas ,and she never did get baptised . They have beeen married six yrs now . Her best friend from childhood married her brother ,but doesn't talk to her anymore just because they quit attending meetings .
I hope the best for your children .I think you have done a great job helping them to have a reasonable,balanced outlook .
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What Do You Say or Is It Better to Saying Nothing?
by Eiben Scrood ini miss some of my old watchtower friendships.
usually i can just put the people out of my mind but when a big event comes up like me expecting my first child, i did reach out a bit.
this one friend in particular was kind of like an older brother to me.
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I think it is very sad he could just not say, " Hey really glad to hear from you it has been a long time ! Wow great news about you having your first child ,that is exciting . How does it feel being a Dad ? " See that would be normal expressions from a long time friend . Instead what you got was a JW infomercial .
Your wife is correct about letting go of the old relationships . They are not based on reality . His response is only a small glimpse of what is to come .
Should you respond ??? That depends on you . One safe way I would respond would be something like this ," Well it was great sharing my happy news with you ,my wife and I are so happy with the prospects of raising our child together in a happy well balanced home ." Leave it at that imho.